Ep122: Mike Greenlees/John Mohr (Tar)

Mike and John from Tar

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Well, well, welcome to another episode of Protonic Reversal! Conan and Josh had fun chats with (separately) Mike and John from Tar! First up was Mike, with whom we discussed such whimsy as:
-A 25 year gap between radio call-in shows
-Getting back into show shape
-Picking songs for the set
-Aiming for Barry White, settling for KC and the Sunshine Band
-Being on Amphetamine Reptile, Touch & Go, Dischord AND Sub Pop
-Tar’s Static and Jawbox’s Static
-Cuddly scene beef with Poster Children
-Sharing a bill with Kyuss
-Fitting in on AmRep
-Various lost arts of record buying and making
-Being on T&G to remain control
-Page Hamiltron trash talk
-The effect of Tom’s arrival on the band’s songwriting
-Henry Owings

Then we got John on the line, and talked about:

-The disastrous last tour of Tar
-Writing the last album
-Picking songs for the reunion sets (yeah we asked him too)
-Being satisfied with the end of the band and getting back together
-Treating the vocals like any other instrument
-Guitars what are made of metal
-Henry Owings

Some circuitous topics, yeah? It was a fun conversation, to be sure! Have yerself a listen!

Songs played:
Tar – Barry White
Tar – Land Luck
Tar – G7
Shellac – End of Radio (end theme)

Ep121: John Yingling (The World Underground)

http://www.theworldunderground.com/

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Globetrotting punk rock documentarian John Yingling, of The World Underground, back in the U.S. for a limited amount of time comes back to Protonic Reversal after a 70 episode, and 3 1/2 year break. We speak of all things documentary, talk about his recent work in Indonesia and future plans for short missives, as well as the next chapter in the World Underground and everything to come. Culture shocks coming back to modern America PK14, All that and a hell of a lot of great music from abroad.

Songs played:

Hiperson – Football Game (Chengdu, China)
Dirty Fingers – School (Shanghai, China)
Lonely Leary – Flaneur (Beijing, China)
Grrrl Gang – Bathroom
hedge hog – Meng Ba La Na Xi​(​勐巴拉娜西) (Jogja, Indonesia)

Ep120: Jeff Mueller (June of 44, Shipping News, Rodan)

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Hello, dear friends, and welcome to another episode of Protonic Reversal! On the day after Jesus’ birthday, we talked to the amazing Jeff Mueller (of June of 44, Shipping News, and Rodan!) and discussed such topics as:

-When your kids see you play
-Relearning via Youtube
-Being a NYC band that draws in Italy
-Packaging as part of the overall art project
-Having and ditching nautical themes
-Meeting social media friends in the real world
-the disappearing DIY aesthetic
-How certain bands don’t get the success they should have
-“Five thirty in the morning happens a lot over there”
-The Shipping News and Jason
-a commonality of experience
-Principal riff writers
-Using the “In the Fishtank” approach on your own records
-Stencilling anything for the merch table
-Distributors hate weird packaging
-The still dire state of record pressing
-Investing the time in finding new music
-Crain
-Half-Cocked
-Cycles of rediscovery

Interview around 14 minutes in.

Ep119: Joe Cardamone (the Icarus Line)/Michael Grodner (The Icarus Line Must Die)

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Double the guests, double the fun! As Conan and Josh have on Joe Cardamone of the Icarus Line and Michael Grodner, filmmaker beyond the upcoming (sorta) biopic: The Icarus Line Must Die.

17:05 Michael Grodner

57:10 Joe Cardamone

Michael Grodner:
-The Jim Jarmusch Black and White Aesthteic.
-It’s not a documentary
-darkness following the band.
-relating to creative pursuits
-art vs. commerce, subtly
-Jerry Stahl’s book-on-vinyl
-Keith Morris
Dirty Laundry (TV!)
-the Hell of fundraising vs. actually making a movie.
https://www.facebook.com/theicaruslinemustdie/

Joe Cardamone
-Starting the film having no idea what was going on
-Dialogue that sounds like one person (aka: Sorkin-speak)
-Gimme Danger the movie: a missed opportunity
-Some Kind of Monster: Best thing ever
-Music’s marketability and it’s inextricable ties to youth culture
-not taking advantage of making a “comeback”
-Eastbound & Down
-Scott Weiland’s death and the last Icarus Line’s last show
-Getting real life in the movie
-Metallica in a Bob Log style
-How to get to the solo record
-“Do whatever you want. No one’s going to hear it, who gives a fuck?”
-Sounding good next to Gucci Mane

Ep118: Rick Valentin (Poster Children, Thoughts Detecting Machines)

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Hello, summer people! It’s time to put away the sweaters and break out the shorts, and while you do all that shuffling about with your damned laundry, you should listen to this great episode of Protonic Reversal! Conan and Josh welcome back to the show Rick Valentin, of Poster Children and Thoughts Detecting Machines! We talked about such things as:

-semi-accidental topicality
-there’s nothing wrong with writing music of its time
-putting out a record from your basement…again
-DIY and PledgeMusic
-the album as a complete package
-packaging multiple items/bundling
-members of Fugazi actually selling merch
-avant-garde smart-ass humor
-sequencing an album
-rejecting digital perfection and “Keeping in REAL”
-working with Albini after a 25 year gap
-changing songwriting techniques
-a record of songs vs. a “production”
-making a pocket band
-doing all the wrong things at the right time
-fully baking the half baked ideas
-a long digression on TV
-building autonomous community on the internet

Ep117: Andrew Elstner (Dead Now, Tilts, Torche)

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Hey hey hey!
it’s Andrew Elstner of Dead Now, and formerly of Tilts, Torche, Riddle of Steel and more.
He speaks of leaving Torche, the passing of Ken McCray, moving down south, boutique pedals. Putting on a show. It’s a whole thing.

Did you know that the original theme song for this show was a Tilts song?
Yup. He’s also a returning guest. All the way back from Episode 3. Holy moly! that’s 114 episodes ago. OK!

Ep116: Andrew “Falco” Falkous (Future of the Left, christian fitness, mclusky)

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Well met, all! Welcome once again to the home of the Protonic Reversal! This week’s guest was friend of the show Andrew Falkous! It’s always a blast chatting with Falco, as you can see by the list of topics we touched upon:

-All the Bongs, Vol. 2
-the binary of “California” and “Not California”
-pissing around until something good happens
-the story of a band vs. the quality
-the demented husks of humanity, at least they’re having a good time
-making the music is the most fun part
-the Cardiff post office
-Morrissey needs limits
-”proper music” (said with disdain)
-the misplaced optimism of the doomed
-cat updates
-”Of Wolf and Man”
-the future kings of Spain
-Halliburton: Radio Nope’s biggest listener
-parenthood and living in London
-the French are very attached to smoking
-the skill of further alienating a bad audience

Ep114: Keith Morris (OFF!, Circle Jerks, Black Flag)

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Howdy, all! Tonight’s special guest on Protonic Reversal is the legendary Keith Morris! Conan and Josh, delightfully, barely get a word in as Keith tells us all about such things as:

-Keith’s “turn” to write a book
-The Decline of Western Civilization Part XVIII
-Picking opening acts
-James Brown
-Taking opportunities when presented, or not
-Jeffrey Lee Pierce
-Early punk rock scenes
-Keith Levene
-the end of the Circle Jerks
-the beginning of Off!
-Playing festivals to build a new audience
-Getting the friends and family discount at the hotel

Ep113: Rose Marshack (Poster Children)

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Well, hello! Welcome to another fresh eppy of Protonic Reversal! Conan and Josh are thrilled to talk with their guest, Rose Marshack of Poster Children! While Rose attempts to interview them just as much as they interview her, much is discussed. Such as:

-Meta podcast referencing
-the origins of Radio Zero
-the pkids listserv community
-kids think nickelback is funny
-the epic story of Li’l Pump
-Conan’s Milwaukee conversations
-serious geography discussion
-driving and biking and efficiency
-recycling paranoia
-PRF
-writing the new record
-time signatures and drum terminology
-being an unwilling booker surrogate for Fugazi members
-aluminati and other basses
-Gram the Stickman
-Doing everything in a par
-enhanced CDs
-Yoko Ono
-Josh and Conan: How did you get into punk rock?

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