(stream and download – Episode 101)
It’s Episode #101 of Protonic Reversal! Your hosts, Conan and Josh, are in a sour mood, due to living in the world. But never fear, a phone call with Lindsey Charles of the Cell Phones cures what ails them! After some discussion about Refused (overrated? Or rated just right?) and the fascinating concept of changing a band’s structure by adding in another ill-fitting member out of rock history.
Topics in this interview include:
-Lindsey’s talented brother
-The curse of buying more than you intended during any Target visit
-Everyone loving the Cell Phones’ “West Coast”
-People connecting differently to the same song
-Why don’t we discuss pregnancy?
-Wielding emotions like a weapon
-Playing for unexpecting crowds
-The puzzle of songwriting
-Selling the album title
-Impressing one’s dad
-NEVER BE QUIET
-It’s not a joke, sometimes
-the Kool Aid Man full of period blood
-Encounters with Lesley Gore
-The outlet of performance
By the end of the episode, Conan and Josh are on Cloud Nine. We think you will be, too!c
The Cell Phones – West Coast
The Cell Phones – You Make Me Say No
The Cell Phones – 53% (Overrun)
Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)
Oh, shit, it’s the hundredth episode of PROTONIC REVERSAL! Thrill as Conan, Josh, and special in-studio guest Jeff Moody wrangle GUEST AFTER GUEST for two and a half hours! Get ready to hear such scintillations as:
-Chris Frey on navigating medical crises on a European tour!
-Christian Lembach on stage rocking with a bum knee!
-Sohrab Habibion on the new SAVAK album!
-Josh Newton on Glazed Baby and mysterious Bandcamp apperances!
-Dale Crover on bootleg shoes and Siri!
-Tom Hazelmeyer on carrot cake!
-Rick Valentin on album sequencing and punk rock professorin’!
-Andrew Falkous on parenthood and moving to London as a grownup!
-NOT Steve Albini!
And, believe it or not, EVEN MORE! (Although not more guests, tho, that’s all the guests.) Two and a half hours of entertainment and artistic motivation awaits you, friend!
Porch – Dickhead
Whores – I see you are also wearing a black t-shirt
Savak – Alive in Shadows
Shiner – The Egg
Sie lieben maschinen – meat is meat, love is murder
Dale Crover – Bad Move
Future of the Left – Eating for None
Poster Children – Blatant Dis
Shellac – Steady As She Goes
Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)
Yes, yes! It’s true, Conan and Josh talk to the one and only Rick Sims of the mighty Didjits. It’s in the second hour, so strap in for some first rate entertainment or music or get that fast forward button ready.
-Just Fred (the record and the dude)
-The Cassette Revival
-The Killer + Tony Clifton
-Time Bomb Tom
-Touch & Go 25
-Solos and quick hooks.
-The Gaza Strippers as a 4 course meal
-Writing Songs for the Supersuckers Record
-The Lee Harvey Oswald Band are assholes.
-Sound Design for Theatre
Fred Schneider – Whip
Didjits – (Mama Had A) Skull Baby
Didjits – Max Wedge
Piper – Who’s Your Boyfriend
Mr. Bungle – The Stroke
Lee Harvey Oswald Band – Surrender Earthlings
Didjits – Under the Christmas Fish
Didjits – Plate in My Head
Supersuckers – Born with a Tail
Fred Schneider – Bulldozer
What if Yella from NWA sang the hit of Yellow the band (of “Oh YEAAAAAAH!” fame), that and a few other things before Conan and Josh dive right into the remarkable Eugene Robinson and his many bands, projects, sojourns and creative exploits. Eugene conducts himself with alacrity and poise and a good time is had by all!
-The origins of Sal Mineo (The band)
-Making art worth a good God damn
-spending 12 hours in France and playing a show
-not playing where you oughtn’t
-Advocating the encyclopedia of the voice.
-Singing what your soul calls out
-Old HC fellas that don’t really “get” Oxbow.
-Charating a musical course with no reference points
-Shit talkers being good people to have around / speaking honestly
-Getting hit on by one’s idols.
-the equivalent of automatic writing.
-“Hey Frenchy, put the chainsaw down”
– Compartmentalizing “Fight”
-Writers vs. People who can write.
-To Arms, two legs and the magic of subtlety.
-Whatever happened to Dukowski
-Cross-Cultural experience vs cross-class experience.
-Where the stories come from
Oxbow – Clean Well-Lit Place
Xiu Xiu – Sharp Dressed Man
Sal Mineo – the Primary Bell
Black Face – I Want to Kill You
Oxbow – The Finished Line
On this episode, Conan and Josh have a chat with Mike Blaha of the Blind Shake and countless variations thereupon! Topics include, but are not limited to:
-collaborations and being open
-subbing in bands mid-tour
-Blind Shake vs. solo writing
-the Blaha health regimen
-surfin’ with John Reis
-working through new songs on the road
-acoustic vs. electric
-“I watch Netflix as much as the next guy”
-expressing more emotion
-attempting to book a show before this podcast ends
-living in small boxes
-joining Castle Face Records without changing the band’s sound
-the equal desire for safety and adventure
-keeping ears open to young bands
-the conceptual Blind Shake
Then Mike had to go load out for his solo show, so we ended up talking not exactly about Twin Peaks (although there are a few spoilers if you haven’t watched through episode 8 yet) but more about fandom and experiencing it real-time.
(stream and download – Episode 96)
Conan and Josh kick off the show with a brief discussion of big shows from the past weekend, then have a great chat with J. Robbins! Topics include:
The songwriting process:
-Bendy guitar loop overdubs
-Reviving/rewriting old songs and playing acoustic shows
-Shading confessional songwriting
-The integrity of a band and its members vs. being the sole songwriter
-Going out on a musical limb
-Using the studio as a compositional tool
Stories of various recording projects:
-The great moment when a recording project sounds like a record
-the Dismemberment Plan
-What a producer’s role is and/or what it should be
-Hand-editing 2-inch tape
The grand story of his brief time playing with Scream:
-“J., EVERYBODY knows ‘Ballroom Blitz.'”
Jawbox’s influence, and how influence works in general:
on striking a chord with Lardo beyond friend rock, the intergal usage of the Bit Commander pedal to the Lardo “sound”, playing with the murderer’s row of bands at All Tomorrow’s Impeachments, why Lardo is really 70s dumb riff rock (seriously?!), motivation and inspiration, what record labels mean in 2017 and so much more.
Interview starts at 16:00 or so.
Arcwelder – What Did You Call It That For?
Lardo – Nothing
Lardo – Watch Him (Watch Her)
Lardo – Swimmer
10: Christian fitness – this taco is not correct
Avid listeners and fans of the show will probably remember… probably remember? How could you forget. Episode 89 with Falco, making a record breaking 4th apperance on protonic, this is a great record. I find that a lot of people don’t know it so much. It’s all pretty much Falco, Jack from Future of the Left, Mclusky plays drums. It’s one of the best records that came out this year, that people haven’t paid that much attention that like this kind of music. Reggie Has Asbestos Training
9. The rutabega – unreliable narrator
This is their second record, the Unreliable Narrator, a little less epic than Brothers The Lights Don’t Work which has been their classic go-to, but the songs are as solid as can be, and very cool. I think you will appreciate it very much, if you haven’t heard it… you really need to. I’m playing one of the lesser known ones here. There is a very specific thing, there’s emotions! there’s feelings! it’s not just noise all the time. You can find it at Comedy Minus One, they are good people, making good music from South Bend Indiana. I happened to pick the one that is the darkest most emotional journey on the record, that’s how we do at Protonic Reversal.
I dig this one, this is the moody closer. I’ve Been the Armour
8. Savak – Best of Luck in Future Endeavors
This is a supergroup of sorts, members of Obits and Virgin Islands. I quite like it, I don’t know exactly what I was expecting but it’s a really good hot rocking good time. Episode 84 featured Sohrab of Savak, Obits, Edsel. This record came out early in the year, and I feel like it made a big impact with folks, but I feel like people aren’t giving it the deference it deserves. There’s an almost new wave-y element to it that i’m really into, but this is some serious rock music at the same time.
7. Blind Shake – Celebrate Your Worth
One of the best bands loosely affiliated with the new garage rock “movement”, they are on their own thing, their own trip. The Blind Shake! Possibly my favorite since Seriousness. Just excellent stuff all around. This one is on Goner.
This one is a little less noisy, and a little more DEVO from Pluto.
6. Future of the Left – the Peace and Truce of Future of the Left
I feel like the last few Future of the Left records are divisive for some reason, people seem to be really into them or not into them at all. And they don’t give them a chance. They dont’ give it a chance. This is a band that keeps getting better, I frankly like them better than mclusky. Which is heretical for a lot of folks and I don’t care. It’s a busy world, out there. You should make time for this one.
5. The Cell Phones – No
Believe it or not, I find this band a little hard to describe. Truth told, they sound like themselves, but when pressed I say they sound like Tina Turner fronting NoMeansNo, Freddie Mercury fronting DFA1979, Sharon Jones (of Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings) fronting the Minutemen, none of that makes much sense, but it gets you to a starting point. The record is called NO, two words. NO. How do you talk about something like this without just saying: “this kicks ass, shut up stupid, and listen!”. It sounds like it’s from another planet, but I mean that as a compliment!
4. Helms Alee – Stillicide
Great band, one of those bands that are just difficult to describe but are top to bottom wonderful. A unique voice in heavy music, melodic, epic, adventerous.
Go find them at Sargent House
3. Nocturnal Habits – New Skin for Old Children
This is Justin Trosper and Sara from Unwound, with some Two Ton Boa action in there as well. It’s amazing, I love this record, i’ve listened to it lots. One of the deeper cuts on this one. Lush as hell and great stuff. Soothing in it’s way.
An alternate universe sequel to Leaves Turn Inside you by Unwound.
Two time guest on the show. Last appearance was episode 90. This is off the record Gold. It’s a bomber. They do a thing that is heavy and noisy, kind of reminds me of KARP-esque things. It’s really good. You can also get the back catalog here. Also worthy! They are receiving a lot of attention right now and it’s a very cool, gravity defying thing.
1. Beat Drun Juel – suppressor
You probably don’t know it, and that’s ok. A Chicago band. I slept on listening to this for way too long because I could not remember the name. Which really isn’t that difficult. Once you get it, it’s fine… but you have to get it. This is fucking awesome. It’s PJ Harvey, it’s noiserock, it’s all those things… and it’s own thing.
So those are the top 10 records of the years.
I also am tossing in top 5 songs that were not on those records.
Stiff competition this year, one of the two Melvins record that came out this year. Basses Loaded, the other being Mike and the Melvins with Mike Kunka of godheadSilo. Basses loaded has a bunch of different bass players on it, and it’s really cool. The lead off track is one of my favorite Melvins songs in awhile, it’s the big Alice Cooper side of what they do, and I like it.
I had this record for awhile, listened to it and enjoyed it. But this song is the business. From the incredibly politically contentious state of North Carolina. Last song on the record, I like them a lot. Don’t know why it took me so long, frankly. This one gets real close to emo, real close to something i’m not comfortable with at all, but stays on the right side.
One that might actually be on a few lists outside of the Nerd-o-verse. Post-pop Depression, it’s a good good record. I liked it a lot, I didn’t top 10 like it though, I think it has some weak spots and some of lyrics kind of blow. One of my favorite rock ‘n roll people of all time. But it’s true, certainly my favorite Iggy Pop record in years and years though. Kind of his goodbye record, it’s interesting to think of there not being an Iggy Pop around anymore making music. I think it’s kind of awesome that it’s in the last song lyrically too.
Oh! Do yourself the favor and follow Iggy Pop on instagram to see him hanging out with his bird, it’s amazing.
FEEL THOSE CHIMES SUCKA! I love this record, but there are only so many slots. I listen to this one a lot actually. Famed producer John Congleton and ex-pAperchAse
Christian Fitness – Reggie has Asbestos Training
the rutabega – I’ve Been the Armor
SAVAK – Alive in Shadows
The Blind Shake – Apostle Island
Future of the Left – Running All Over the Wicket
The Cell Phones – You Make Me Say No
Helms Alee – Tit to Toe
Nocturnal Habits – New Skin
Whores – I See You Are Also Wearing A Black T-Shirt
Beat Drun Juel – Hugger
John Congleton & the Nighty Nite – You Are Facing the Wrong Way
Iggy Pop – Paraguay
Maple Stave – Call Station Spider
Big Business – Father’s Day
Melvins – Decay of Lying