Ep108: Darren Jackson (Kid Dakota)

Darren Jackson – Kid Dakota


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12/14 Darren Jackson

Hello, friends, and thank you for joining Conan and Josh for another episode of Protonic Reversal! Today’s guest is Darren Jackson of Kid Dakota, whose album So Pretty is about to get its first vinyl issue. We discuss that, and:

-mp3.com
-the So Pretty cover art
-a Low connection
-Shifting production ideas
-Spy mission band recruitment
-Precise music
-Lack of overdub ideas
-WWTTD?
-minimalism
-Selling the story instead of the music
-How the image fills in the vacuum
-Post-tragic euphoria
-Assessing the Kid Dakota discography
-The lasting popularity of a landmark early record
-Leaving room in the song for the listener
-Recording the new album
-and the next one upcoming!
-When your best album doesn’t catch on
-Getting burned out, recharging and focusing
-Craft pedals
-An unexpected soundtrack opportunity
-Vietnamese bootleg website

Ep107: Hank Donovan (Magpies, Rattlesnake Cable Company)

Magpies, Rattlesnake Cable Company

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Hey, everybody! Welcome to another episode of Protonic Reversal! Today’s guest on the phone with Conan and Josh is Hank Donovan, of Magpies and Rattlesnake cables. Our discussion includes such topics as:

-New drummer!
-Finding musicians in a small city
-a college-dependent scene
-Montana DIY
-Scene commitment
-Meal math
-Gear discovery problems
-Joining a three piece in progress
-Guitar influences
-Being a listener vs. listening as a musician
-Unintentionally starting a cable company
-Making cables cool, making something that lasts
-the Rattlesnake brand
-Not trying to hang out
-Tim Midyett’s Travis Bean baritone
-Hank’s Bean journey
-Schwinn Freestyle

Ep106: Keith Brammer (Die Kreuzen)

Keith Brammer of Die Kreuzen

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Hail hail! Welcome to the Home of the Protonic Reversal. Today’s episode features another great in-studio guest (man, we’ve been lucky with these!) Keith Brammer, from Die Kreuzen, Wreck, Crime and Judy, et cetera! This wide ranging conversation touches upon such topics as:

-The weird novelty of listening to one’s own music
-Production quality and choices (You can do anything, and THAT’S what you want?)
-Punk as an encompassing thing vs. an ossified set of rules
-Bands whose sound indicated their record collection
-Solidifying songs in practice vs. at shows
-“I guess I can do that one and not feel physically ill.”
-Starting with no preconcieved notion of the “rules”
-Working at the top of your skill level, whatever it might be
-“A wide swath of nonsense and garbage” back then, just like now
-Touring and booking shows is definitely better with cell phones
-Lee Ving is the nicest
-The incredibly bad logic of throwing a shoe at a band
-Recognizing the opportunity for a situation that will make a great story
-Aerosmith
-Telling the Rick Nielsen story again (deal with it)
-“Gone Away” as the most realized DK song
-Daydream Nation doesn’t entirely lend itself to being played live
-The celebrated utility of a dry erase board in the practice space
-Doing useless demos for Mechanic Records
-Wasting the money of major labels
-Wreck, and the Carnival Strippers
-Picking a movie for your song to be in: PCU vs. Speed
-Cover choices
-All roads lead to D.O.A.
-Discovering bands way later than everyone else
-Picking bands to open the reunion shows, and doing the reunion shows in general
-Tom Hazlemeyer’s Bash
-Creating something that didn’t exist
-How just being able to fuck with people’s heads is extremely rewarding

Ep105: Tim Midyett (Silkworm, Bottomless Pit, Mint Mile)

Tim Midyett - Silkworm

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Good hello, and welcome to another episode of Protonic Reversal! Today’s EXTENDED episode features our in-studio guest, Tim Midyett (of Mint Mile, Bottomless Pit, Silkworm etc.) Our wide-ranging discussion features topics like:

-the Gerry Todd Show
-The Dancing Imperative
-12-string baritone guitars
-baritones: not guitars, not basses
-Tablecloth lint
-not actually sounding like Pavement or much of anything else
-100% vibe
-a band in a room, playing together at the same time
-the combination of people can be more than the sum of the parts
-solo vs. band
-Tim’s Electric Banjo Jamboree
-the incidental concept record: Firewater
-dealing with bullshit in various ways
-Missoula, MT
-Matador Records
-delineating between projects
-Justin the excellent pedal steel player
-Not interfering with what the band brings to the songs
-getting pickier
-taking all the most rocking songs off the album
-Steve Albini’s instincts are the opposite of commercial
-Modesto is terrible
-coming from the big city with real amps
-it’s better to be able to find your community with the internet than it was before, pretty much
-SWA
-Seattle in 1991
-no offense to Cat Butt
-the touring years
-easing back on touring to keep the band alive
-The Bottomless Pit of Partying
-learning bass via post-punk
-abstract album cover design indicating the contents
-New Order dealing with being of Joy Division
-putting the off topic song on the EP that’s otherwise all about fucking
-the three good clubs in the world
-breaking up the band
-changing strings
-how Andy fixed Doug Martsch’s guitar
-Midyett Rub and Tim’s turkey tips
-the multiple Silkworm tribute bands and the amazing skills of Chris, Chris and Evan
-if no one cared when you started, no one will care if you don’t stop
-a weird sloppy mix of Neil Young and speed metal
-”Man, that’s great, good for me.”

Ep104: Nick Skrobisz (Multicult)

Ep104: Nick Skrobisz - Multicult

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(stream and download – Episode 104)Weeeeeeeeeelllllllllllll howdy, folks! It’s time for another groovy installment of Protonic Reversal! In today’s episode, Conan and Josh chat with Nick Skrobisz of the kickass Baltimore band Multicult. Topics include, but are not limited to:

-Baltimore scene report
-the Oakland van break-in
-Katamari Damacy-ing the equipment (a step up from Tetris-ing)
-Robopedals
-Gear as a filler subject
-the elegance of early Danzig
-Good band names
-Indicative artwork
-Music that doesn’t cater to the audience
-Getting one over on the world
-Delivering a series of feelings
-Response/Reward
-No, really, Baltimore scene report
-DC’s proximity effect
-If ya get hungry…
-Tour advice/booking plot
-Doowutchyalike

Ep103: WORK (Joe Cannon, Jeff Brueggeman, Kavi Laud)

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It’s time for episode 103 of Protonic Reversal! For the second week in a row, we’ve got in-studio guests: the fantastic Milwaukee band WORK. Conan and Josh encourage much nerdy discussion, along the lines of:

-Numerous and endless band name puns
-Australian GPS voices
-Colin Hay
-Sideshows and local Oakland references
-Marsupials
-Guitar rippers like Devo and St. Vincent
-Not having any idea how the band will deal with being in two different cities
-Emolument
-“If we don’t rule, Jeff just starts punching us until we start ruling”
-“Chisel: Because the Jam broke up”
-Mean and vicious pop
-Keeping the record contiguous
-The album tracks on Thriller
-Trying to use the least time to record their comp song
-Joe Lally
-“How come we don’t have Thursday Thursdays?”
-Tangin’ the hump
-Joe’s superpower: Temporarily Benjamin Franklin
-Domain names
-Electric Abacus: “Pretty proggy, very formulaic and repetitive”
-Hassling a song until the most irritating bass line possible brings it together
-Working it out during smoke and/or shit breaks
-Evaluating Paul McCartney’s collaborations
-Quitting the Moody Blues in 1968
-Confusing Michael Jackson videos
-The various mixes of Raw Power
-The Bob James-esque solo records of Max Rebo
-Running into George Lucas at Starbucks
-Obsolete format chat
-What to expect from the new WORK record
-Eating Popeye’s and watching Popeye
-All of us admitting we don’t know enough about Milwaukee’s excellent hip hop scene
-Playing at Bounce right after the wedding ceremony
-Chicken-greasing the lens
-Hating stuff that sounds like stuff
-Audiences love psychedelic freak-outs sometimes
-Tracking the size of a city via pedal steel players
-“PEDAL STEEL. THEREMIN. KAZOO. FUCK YOU.
Available to franchise”
-Mittster Mittster
-amiondrugs.com
-amionamiondrugs.com
-Blingee
-Strictly fancy
-Josh is revealed to be a character played by Michael Winslow
-Method Snacking
-amiatbandpractice.com
-Lots of T. Rex discussion
-Heading out on a cuddly note
-Smash that F5, keep it refreshed

Ep101: Fox Face (Mary Joy, Lindsay DeGroot, Lydia Chioda, Chopper Chioda)

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t’s time for a FREEWHEELING episode of Protonic Reversal! Conan and Josh have guests live in the studio: the most excellent Milwaukee band Fox Face! Hear such seemingly endless digressions such as:

-Josh’s mic antics
-Fox Face meets Dirtnap
-Rock ‘n’ roll maternity leave
-Conan’s most relaxing episode ever
-Banana and the Handplant
-the garage rock scene…?
-Magick? Like from the X-Men?
-Lindsey watching the Craft a bunch
-Always dicking on purpose
-Following a songwriting path
-Is Britney Spears listening right now?
-The long history of Fox Face and its members
-The (not really) fairweather drummer
-Heterogeneity within genres and being classed as a “girl band”
-Fox Face’s shock at having a web site
-Tour talk
-Writing lyrics in a Trump world
-Mary’s two-drink stage banter
-Favorite bands in the world scene
-The Mundane Epiphany
-Tectonics talk
-Fantasy show lineups, but achievable
-Operation: Mind Spiders
-The thing you play in the van that everyone else hates
-An extended discussion of Christian rock
-Conan digs deep to identify the annoying Aerosmith songs
-Kyle Motor’s cute cat
-The asset of a sympathetic engineer
-Being a parent and continuing to be creative

This episode is very silly, but it’s very fun, and Fox Face is one of our very favorites. Enjoy!

Fox Face – Clever Girl
Fox Face – Nasty Woman
Fox Face – Hiawatha
Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

Ep101: Lindsey Charles (The Cell Phones)

Episode 101 – Lindsey Charles – The Cell Phones

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It’s Episode #101 of Protonic Reversal! Your hosts, Conan and Josh, are in a sour mood, due to living in the world. But never fear, a phone call with Lindsey Charles of the Cell Phones cures what ails them! After some discussion about Refused (overrated? Or rated just right?) and the fascinating concept of changing a band’s structure by adding in another ill-fitting member out of rock history.

Topics in this interview include:

-Lindsey’s talented brother
-The curse of buying more than you intended during any Target visit
-Everyone loving the Cell Phones’ “West Coast”
-People connecting differently to the same song
-Why don’t we discuss pregnancy?
-Wielding emotions like a weapon
-Playing for unexpecting crowds
-The puzzle of songwriting
-Hooks!
-Selling the album title
-Impressing one’s dad
-53% (Overrun)
-NEVER BE QUIET
-It’s not a joke, sometimes
-the Kool Aid Man full of period blood
-Mismatched bookings
-Well-matched bookings
-Encounters with Lesley Gore
-The outlet of performance

By the end of the episode, Conan and Josh are on Cloud Nine. We think you will be, too!c

The Cell Phones – West Coast
The Cell Phones – You Make Me Say No
The Cell Phones – 53% (Overrun)
Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

Ep100: Chris Frey! Christian Lembach! Sohrab Habibion! Josh Newton! Dale Crover! Tom Hazelmyer! Andrew “Falco” Falkous! Rick Valentin! (not) Steve Albini!

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Oh, shit, it’s the hundredth episode of PROTONIC REVERSAL! Thrill as Conan, Josh, and special in-studio guest Jeff Moody wrangle GUEST AFTER GUEST for two and a half hours! Get ready to hear such scintillations as:

-Chris Frey on navigating medical crises on a European tour!
-Christian Lembach on stage rocking with a bum knee!
-Sohrab Habibion on the new SAVAK album!
-Josh Newton on Glazed Baby and mysterious Bandcamp apperances!
-Dale Crover on bootleg shoes and Siri!
-Tom Hazelmeyer on carrot cake!
-Rick Valentin on album sequencing and punk rock professorin’!
-Andrew Falkous on parenthood and moving to London as a grownup!
-NOT Steve Albini!

And, believe it or not, EVEN MORE! (Although not more guests, tho, that’s all the guests.) Two and a half hours of entertainment and artistic motivation awaits you, friend!

Porch – Dickhead
Whores – I see you are also wearing a black t-shirt
Savak – Alive in Shadows
Shiner – The Egg
Sie lieben maschinen – meat is meat, love is murder
Dale Crover – Bad Move
Future of the Left – Eating for None
Poster Children – Blatant Dis
Shellac – Steady As She Goes
Shellac Crow
Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

Ep099: Rick Sims (Didjits, Gaza Strippers)

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Yes, yes! It’s true, Conan and Josh talk to the one and only Rick Sims of the mighty Didjits. It’s in the second hour, so strap in for some first rate entertainment or music or get that fast forward button ready.
-Just Fred (the record and the dude)
-The Cassette Revival
-The Killer + Tony Clifton
-Time Bomb Tom
-Touch & Go 25
-Didjits Reunion(s)
-Solos and quick hooks.
-The Gaza Strippers as a 4 course meal
-Writing Songs for the Supersuckers Record
-The Lee Harvey Oswald Band are assholes.
-Rey Wesham
-The Offspring
-Sound Design for Theatre
Songs played:

Fred Schneider – Whip
Didjits – (Mama Had A) Skull Baby
Didjits – Max Wedge
Piper – Who’s Your Boyfriend
Mr. Bungle – The Stroke
Lee Harvey Oswald Band – Surrender Earthlings
Didjits – Under the Christmas Fish

Didjits – Plate in My Head
Supersuckers – Born with a Tail
Fred Schneider – Bulldozer

Shellac – The End of Radio (Closing Theme)

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