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  • Ep151: Tim Midyett (Silkworm, Mint Mile, Bottomless Pit)

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    Tim Midyett returns to Protonic Reversal, for the first #StayHome edition of the show. Tim comes back with a brand new 2xLP Mint Mile record, as well as new experiences from recording and touring with legends of drone: SUNN 0)))

    -Quarantine life
    -Cancelling shows
    -Playing live vs. not
    -Ambertron!
    -Baroque elements and Showing Ambertron to a younger Tim.
    -Listening to old stuff from way back when.
    -Playing with people more skilled than you are/playing with people better than you.
    -Inspiration.
    -playing with and entering the world of SUNN 0))), a detailed journey!
    -Michael Dahlquist tour diaries.
    -Bottomless Pit revisited.

  • Ep150: Steve Albini (Shellac, Big Black, Rapeman)

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    For the 150th episode, one of our favorite guests is back, the unmistakable and always interesting Mr. Steve Albini.

    -Making ends meet in the age of quarantine.
    -The American Health Care system
    -The slow escalation of risk with a midwest Shellac tour
    -Playing new songs live, 1/3 of the set is unreleased stuff.
    -Live experience vs. vegas stage show (the art of surprise and stage expectations)
    -Billiard Player Song and live evolution of songs
    -Cheap Trick vs. the Ex
    -Do the internal meanings of the songs change.
    -Scrappers
    -Old songs
    -Accountability for song content/flawed thinking
    -Culpability v/ doubling down on dickery.
    -Jokes vs. just being a jerk (comedians)
    -Chappelle
    -Big Black art aesthetic (it was cheaper!)
    -Big Black: Jordan, Minnesota
    -Big Black: Seth (his DOG hated black people…)(race in America and privilege)
    -The Mentors
    -The name of the band Rapeman
    -Rapeman: “I have not been held to account”
    -Blitz tattoos.
    -Dave Riley of Big Black remembered
    -The Girl on the Third Floor soundtrack (with Tim Midget and Helen Money)
    -The End of Radio Peel sessions

  • Ep149: Billy Gould (Faith No More/Talking Book)

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    The one and only Billy Gould finally comes on Protonic Reversal! Billy and his coharts have an awesome new The Talking Book album. A project that evokes eno-like soundscapes as well as 70s film soundtracks. Conan and Billy talk about that, many things Faith No More and… Milk Cult?

    -Talking Book II-70s film soundtracks
    -9 year gap
    -Structured but not structured
    -“It’s not ready until it’s ready”
    -Adding a member to a very subjective and subconscious enterprise
    -Not the same as getting a new band member.
    -Milk Cult!
    -Faith No More going into new directions the audience didn’t necessarily expect
    -Being known as a “rock guy.”
    -Old San Francisco
    -(Men of) Porn
    -Playing in Jello Biafra’s band
    -Faith No More reunion and complex relationships.
    -Songs with problems “We fixed ’em!”
    -Getting the call from Wayne Kramer to play in the MC50
    -The pressure.
    -Playing with Brendan Canty
    -“If you do something, see it though
    -Choose a journey where you don’t care about the destination.
    -The many moods and styles of guitar players of Faith More.
    -FNM as alchemy
    -Slap bass demo tapes
    -touring vs. recording
    -Live shows with Talking Book
    -Kool Arrow: the genre is “good”

  • Ep148: Buzz Osborne (Melvins)

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    Buzz Osborne returns to Protonic Reversal to discuss quarantines, the new acoustic(+) album Gift of Sacrifice, songwriting, gear and lots, lots more.

    -Quarantine Life
    -EP, Acoustic Records and covering Six Pack
    -Trevor Dunn!
    -Limited edition handmade stuff
    -“You don’t HAVE to buy it.”
    -Suiting songs to the player
    -Steven McDonald in the band
    -How people listen to music
    -Vintage vs. useful
    Hilbish Design!
    EGCs
    -Vinyl vs. cds
    -Songwriting and “banking songs”
    -Picking up a guitar to write vs. just to play.
    -“You don’t want the fourth of july at all times.”
    -Letting the lightning strike

  • Ep147: Jonathan Nuñez (Torche)

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    Jonathan Nuñez of the mighty Torche joins Conan for a talk that includes:

    -Nuñez Amplification and pedals
    -The current “golden age” of small scale, handmade gear.
    -Moving from bass go guitar.
    -Parting ways with Andrew
    -Parting ways with Juan
    -The extended family of Miami rockers.
    -The absolutely insane journey of Torche’s post-Russian/Greece Covid-19 tour
    -Covid-19 lifestyle changes
    -Torche “Part Time Punks” sessions
    -Jonathan’s path into recording and playing music.

    And tons more!

  • Ep146: Mark Lanegan (Mark Lanegan Band, Queens of the Stone Age, Gutter Twins, Screaming Trees)

    Mark Lanegan

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    -Doing the video with Travis and Joe (and Donel!)
    -Video with Jimmy the cab driver (reprising that character after years)
    -Making the other video at the Salton Sea with still photographs
    -“Don’t mind the crickets.”
    -The book! “Sing Backwards and Weep” (and companion piece record)
    -Recording the companion piece record to the book and linking the songs to it.
    -“A pandora’s box of shitty memories.”
    -Working with Rob Marshall of Humanist.
    -Making a double record/great double records.
    -Opening for Watt
    -Blues Funeral
    -Meet and greets at the merch table and getting ghost pain from shaking hands.
    -Complicated hand shake non-engagement
    -Older audiences.
    -Picking a setlist with so much material.
    -Ripping off Leonard Cohen
    -Rated R and joining Queens of the Stone Age
    -Gutter Twins with Greg Dulli
    -Playing on each other’s records, vs. working on things together.
    -Meeting Greg Dulli (and initially wanting to kick ass ass)
    -“Secret beef!”
    -Josh Homme in Screaming Trees
    -Walking the streets with Josh Homme, and Josh being misidentified as a cop!
    -The Conner brothers.
    -The story of the Screaming Trees.
    -Publically learning how to make records
    -Different crowds knowing different eras of the music.
    -Artist vs. entertaintainer vs. guy who stands there and sings.
    -Stooges and being in Iggy’s sights

  • Ep145: Creston Spiers (Harvey Milk)

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    It is Creston, of Harvey Milk!

  • Ep144: Kevin Rutmanis (hepa.titus, The Cows, Melvins, Tomahawk)

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    At last! Kevin Rutmanis comes on Protonic Reversal, a delightful conversation with a self-identified genuine musical weirdo that is not heard from NEARLY OFTEN enough! In this episode Conan and Kevin talk about:

    -Covering Night Goat in Hepa.Titus
    -Boutique vinyl, human hands touch almost ever piece!
    -Finding Alice Cooper (who also hated everybody)
    -AM Radio inspiration and enjoyment
    -Da Blues!
    -Not picking up the bass until 28, he was very busy.
    -The Cows, a nasty bunch of creeps that also played music.
    Inspiration by other bands not being great.
    -SLIDE bass!
    -New generations getting into “weird” music and finding music in general.
    -Cape Fear guy.
    -Recording the last “Cows” record and then joining the Melvins.
    -Buzz wanting the Kevin thing.
    -The story of Tomahawk, Kevin’s tale. A contrast in musical approaches. (thanks Buzz!)
    -the story of Hepa.Titus, from early to now.
    -How great is Paul Christensen?
    -The Bass V-I… Kevin R. is NOT a gear guy
    -Electrical Guitar Company necks.

  • Ep143: Mike Watt (Minutemen, fIREHOSE, the Stooges)

    What happens when you get two rock ‘n roll talkers together? Good, good stuff. Sit tight for a momentous protonic with the legendary Mr. Mike Watt. The movement! Minutemen! Stooges! more…
    Mike Watt

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    -Technology! As tool of punk rock/DIY
    -DROOOOOOONE
    -Composing with BASS! (…and leaving room for the others that way)
    -Contemplating the engine room
    -Ballhog or Tugboat?: band as comp tape!
    -Pedro
    -Nautical imagery and Watt’s dad, ships and touring bands
    -Gigs v. flyers
    -Taking turns in punk rock.
    -Bumper stickers/No Littering, etc.
    -Perception is 9/10 of the law.
    -Driving the van
    -Il Sogno del Marinaio
    -taking turns and different roles.
    -Playing stuff that you didn’t write.
    -Plowhard (not blowhard!)
    -The story of Watt joining up with the Stooges. J. Mascis and the Fog, etc.
    -“First you rip of a guy, then you play with him.”
    -The songs end when they end.
    -Little Doll/Pharoah Sanders
    -Uniform music and punk rock.
    -“Steve, BLOW!”
    -Stooges crowd age.
    -Delivering the songs of the Stooges.
    -IGGY!… focus on Iggy.
    -Letting the freak flag fly.
    -Double Nickels on the Dime
    -Keeping it succinct: Ummagumma
    -Zen Arcade v. Double Nickels: friendly arms race/game of chicken
    -wearing the (proverbial) Carmen Miranda hat.
    -Treble v. Bass
    -Recording budgets for Minutemen.
    -Jam econo: way of life, not slogan
    -The Watt from Pedro show.
    -If you want a good crop, use a lot of manure.
    -Why do you do what you do?

  • Ep142: Matt Cronk (Qui, Cunts)

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    First episode of 2020 is up! Matt Cronk of Qui and Cunts speaks to Conan about all things rock!

    -Quite a bit of talk about midwest vs. L.A.
    -Cunts origin story
    -AmRep/Touch and Go style or Hardcore Band?
    -The name, reactions or non-reactions thereof. “If you’re offender by it, it’s probably not for you… and that’s fine”
    -Being in a band that is getting a little bit of attention while being a musician approaching middle age.
    -“While they argue about riffs, I can look at girls on tinder”
    -Qui… and Anything Goes!
    -Genre vs. Emotional Response.
    -Qui on recharge status
    -Covering “Goin’ Out West”
    -Hardcore bands lack of originality.
    -“I just want to listen to Captain Beefheart and REM
    -David Yow joining Qui
    -Qui recording Ashtry Heart with Buzz Osborne, Dale Drover, Trevor Dunn and Kevin Rutmanis
    -Ramones vs. Eric Dolphy: respect to both, different skill sets.

  • Ep141: Donna Diane (Djunah, Beat Drun Juel)

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    Conan talks to Donna about the Djunah full length Ex-Voto. Going over on a song by song basis, as well as the VERY BUSY YEAR that the band has had.
    There is talk of Donna’s previous band Beat Drun Juel as well… and gosh darn it, it’s just a great talk.

    Listen in!

  • Ep140: Greg Saunier (Deerhoof)

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    It’s long overdue! But Greg Saunier of the mighty Deerhoof is finally on Protonic Reversal!

    -Blueberry tea.
    -San Francisco then vs. now and various tech stories.
    -Music scenes where everybody participates
    -Deerhoof finding it’s audience, an audience that likes to be surprised.
    -Corporations consolidating music together.
    -Greg and Conan talk about the early beginnings of Deerhoof.
    -Halfbird
    -Major label sell outs being an anachronism.
    -George Horn and mastering the crazy first Deerhoof 7″ for Kill Rock Stars
    -Satomi joining the band after only being in America a few weeks.
    -Brief forays into politics.
    -The complete lack of “development” in music now, and it’s vitality to Deerhoof becoming it’s thing.
    -tourin’ tourin’ tourin’, at medium sized places around the world.
    -Spotify and the gross insustainability of things that “seem like the future” but benefit everybody but the artist.
    -Underground and independent spaces worldwide!
    -Ed and John.
    -John’s pickup soccer games.
    -Political stances in 2019.

  • Ep137: Bill Barbot (Jawbox, Foxhall Stacks, Burning Airlines)

    Ep136: Bill Barbot (Jawbox, Foxhall Stacks, Burning Airlines)
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    The mighty Bill Barbot! Guitar player for Jawbox, singer and guitar player for Foxhall Stacks, Bassist for Burning Airlines and thorn in the side of Brett Kavanaugh comes on the mighty Protonic Reversal to talk about Jawbox reunion shows, work/life balance, living punk rock vs. just playing it, his new power-pop/glam band’s cassette and so much more. Come on in!

  • Ep136: Brainiac (John, Juan, Tyler)

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    • -Documentaries, keys to the city and being Brainiac in 2019
    • Honoring Tim’s memory
    • revisting material and the perspective of age.
    • Tyler, coming back to playing music and his son “getting” Brainiac.
    • Multigenerational audiences
    • the reunion industrial complex
    • Tim’s dad: “are you going to keep going?”
    • Getting back together for a benefit and reconnecting
    • Familiarty for better or worse.
    • Idiosynchratic music, context and impact
    • Tim Krug (the missing link/understudy)
    • Picking who does what (singing songs, etc.)
    • Subbing for the local legandary hardcore band and destroying the floor in the process.
    • “We’ll Eat Anything.”
    • “oh, that was awful” “That was the best show ever!”
    • Being claimed as an influence and embracing doing something different than what others do.
    • Hostile or baffled audiences?
    • the band playoffs (and WINNING it)
    • The Brainiac – internationale ep with Kim Deal
    • When John joined the band, Bonsai Superstar, etc. 
    • Brainiac as the all boys Brady Bunch.
    • Hissing Prigs
    • Tyler gets new drums, and how they shaped the sound of that record.
    • Recording “nothing ever changes”Recording Electro Shock for President, distortions and learning how to record (usually the wrong way)and bringing that hodge podge to Jim O’Rourke
    • Keyboards, samplers, etc. and bringing that out live.
    • Playing “New/unreleased songs” for the reunion show, songs that might have been on the next (major label?) record.
    • Being a “weird” band and infiltrating mass cultureB
    • Brainiac covers and legacy, overall take on things, and the rights to the back catalog.

  • Ep130: Best albums of 2019

    Ep130 was our special on our favorite albums of 2019. It’s a lot like the list that is on the site in list form, but we had call ins and such… if you want to listen it is here.…

  • Ep129: Craig Wedren (Shudder to Think)

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    Hey hey hey! This episode of Protonic Reversal features a talk with the mighty Craig Wedren of Shudder to Think, we talk to Craig about:

    -Hacking the Polaroid Spectra.
    -My 90s (new book and photo show)
    -Analog vs. Digital in very specific incidents.
    -Making unique videos, such as the X-French T-shirt one
    -The label that picked Hit Liquor to start the album???
    -All Hits on Planet Shudder
    -Daisy Chainsaw!
    -Improvising a vocal chorale.
    -Putting your best glam foot forward on the Velvet Goldmine soundtrack.
    -Higher and Higher.
    -How to bring the various quadrangs of your art to the others.
    -Group songs in a solo context.
    -Bassassery or Bad-assy
    and lots, lots more!

  • Conan Neutron’s Top Records of 2018

    Conan Neutron’s top records of 2018:
    1. Tropical Fuck Storm – a Laughing Death in Meatspace (TFS Band)
    2. Lung – All the Kings Horses 
    3. sewingneedle – User Error
    4. Screaming Females– All at Once 
    5. Hot Snakes – Jericho Sirens
    6. Body Futures– Maybe It’s Just the Weather 
    7. Poster Children – Grand Bargain
    8. Christian Fitness – Nuance the Musical 
    9. Haunted Heads – Everything We Agreed About 
    10. TONGUE PARTY – Looking for a Painful Death

    Honorable Mentions: 
    BLAHA– Survival Climb
    The God Eaters – Fading Horizons
    Gouge Away – Burnt Sugar
    WORK – Strictly Cruis’n
    Mister Dude – Party Tape
    The Messthetics – s/t
    Dale Crover – Fickle Finger of Fate
    (the) Melvins – Pinkus Abortion Technician 
    Lung – Bottom of the Barrel 
    The Hand – When All Of The Shit Hits All Of The Fans (The Hand Vol. 3 & 4)

    I listened to a LOT of records over the year, but these were the ones that that I listened to the most. And at some point, you have to just let the train leave the station.
    I’ll put the links below

    I’m sure I missed a few, that’s fine. The point is: there’s a ton of amazing music out there. Go listen to it! And I guess, like the show’s FB page if you support this kind of deep dive. 
    Note: this is slightly different from the best of 2018 show, which was a team effort and will be a different post

    1. Tropical Fuck Storm – A Laughing Death in Meat Space
    Absolutely powerful stuff. Great songs with incredible left turns. Moody, claustrophobic and staggeringly self aware, like a sentient computer raised on Bill Hicks comedy specials, Howard Zinn, Black MIrror and Twin Peaks. I heard this blind, knowing nothing of any other or previous bands and loved it. Maybe you will too? It’s a hell of a ride. Possible record of the year.
    RIYL: the pAperchAse, Dead Rider, Leonard Cohen, the Knife

    2. Lung – All the King’s Horses
    LUNG are back with a new album. You’ll never believe that a band with just Cello, vocals and drums can sound so full. Propulsive, Heavy, tuneful and thoughtful. Incredible lyrics, powerful arrangements and songs that stick with you for long after you stop listening. 

    The only problem is they have a very unique sound, which isn’t always rewarded. I need you to trust me when I say that this is WELL worth your time and one of the best records of 2018. 

    Bonus: a timely David Bowie cover.

    3. sewingneedle – user error
    Remarkably acrobatic musicianship paired with gorgeous harmonies. Musically, sewingneedle can hold their own with the fiercest noise rock band, yet there is melody and harmony. What madness is this? Great songs, great repeated listenability. 

    RIYL: jawbox, slint, Polvo, Chavez, Shudder to Think, Shiner.
    https://sewingneedle.bandcamp.com/album/user-error

    4. Screaming FemalesAll At Once
    Probably the best Screaming Females record yet… totally rips. A consistently great and hard working live band delivers their go-to record on record, what. 7? Not counting the live one. Incredible. These’s an adventure rock song on here and a song that legit sounds like it could be played as a prom. (I mean that as a compliment.)
    As an aside, this is one of the records on my list that was probably most widely heard, yet wasn’t on that many lists. That’s really dumb. It’s great!
    RIYL: Dinosaur Jr. Pixies, Silkworm
    https://screamingfemales.bandcamp.com/album/all-at-once

    5. Hot Snakes – Jericho Sirens
    Hello! Do you live under a rock? Yes? Ok! This is the long awaited 4th record by the formerly dead, now living rock quartet HOT SNAKES. It’s fueled by the riffs of John Reis and the vocals of Rick Froberg. A certain magic happens with these two powerhouses together. The music is an inheritor of bands like the Wipers and Crime, while bringing some of the academic polyrhythms/punk-prog of Drive Like Jehu too. It’s exactly what the Doctor ordered.
    https://hotsnakes.bandcamp.com/album/jericho-sirens

    6. Body Futures – Maybe it’s Just the Weather
    B-52s and Shudder To Think superhero team-up, Dismemberment Plan covering the New Pornographers. Whatever! Body Futures play music as unique as their name, it’s catchy it’s angular and it’s absolutely vital. Let’s get down to it boppers. 
    https://bodyfutures.bandcamp.com/…/maybe-its-just-the…

    7. Poster Children – Grand Bargain
    First Poster Children album in years and it’s an absolute corker! Intelligent lyrics, catchy riffs, hooks for days and frantic energy are all on deck. Music for the modern revolution. RIYL: Buzzcocks, Sonic Youth, Talking Heads, Husker Du
    https://store.posterchildren.com/album/grand-bargain

    https://store.posterchildren.com/album/grand-bargain

    8. christian fitness – nuance: the musical 
    Nuance makes heavy use of strings and adult arrangements? (not pornography, you understand.). There aren’t any “candle in the wind” style ballads, or any regrettable ska numbers, but after 3 rock-solid, rockers certain to please fans of mclusky and fotl. This one is different, denser, & a little more challenging. Delivered with a smirk of sardonicism and a twinge of dystopian theatrical heights. There’s a lot here, but it keeps me coming back to listen regularly. Fantastic album.
    https://christianfitness.bandcamp.com/…/nuance-the-musical

    9. Haunted Heads – Everything We Agreed About
    Unforgettable hooks, raucous riffs and superior songwriting. In a different time Haunted Heads would be the darlings of the indie rock world. RIYL: Built to Spill (at their least jammy!), Sebadoh (at their most stable) and the Thermals. 
    https://hauntedheads.bandcamp.com/…/everything-we…

    10. TONGUE PARTY – Looking for a Painful Death
    Minneapolis purveyors of the heavy come through with their best effort to date! Bringing forth the boundless energy of KARP along with a mid-period AmRep sensibility, Tongue Party’s brand of relentless touring and hard work has resulted in their most badass and immediate record yet. Learning Curve Records
    https://tongueparty.bandcamp.com/…/looking-for-a…

    HONORABLE MENTIONS!

    HONORABLE MENTION 1: BLAHA – Survival Climb
    Mike Blaha of the Blind Shake has a hell ass rock quarter, this is their most raucous to date and it’s sure to please those that like their rock both wiry and engaged. Worthy of a listen to anybody interested in the cross roads of post-punk and garage rock. 
    https://nocoastrecordings.bandcamp.com/…/blaha-survival…

    HONORABLE MENTION 2: The God Eaters – Fading Horizons
    the pride of Marquette Michigan come out with another ep of noise rocky solid rippers! Ferocious, Precocious and that’s my prognosis. RIYL: Minutemen, Vaz, The Big Boys
    https://thegodeaters.bandcamp.com/album/fading-horizons

    HONORABLE MENTION 3: Gouge Away – Burnt Sugar
    A fascinating band! Sometimes hardcore, sometimes a bit more noiserock… strong songs and a powerful lady singer. A band to watch!

    HONORABLE MENTION 4: WORK – Strictly Cruis’n
    WORK are back, w/a tight new slab of some serious rock ‘n roll. (Well, not so serious if you consider the song titles… ) nevertheless, wry wordplay, clever songwriting & an intent to bring the damage w/ rock solid rhythms and hooky leads are on deck. Fans of the Minutemen, Spoon at their brattiest & loudest, Obits, & early ZZ Top can get stoked. This is ROCK music (ROCK, all caps, just like the band name WORK.) coming from a punk place. It’s well worth your time. Gotta gotta get to the show!
    https://workmke.bandcamp.com/album/strictly-cruisn

    HONORABLE MENTION #5: Mister Dude – Party Tape
    WHAM! Mister Dude upside yo’ face. Deep feeling good about bad time jams, with some heavy Octave radness from two of the fellas from Police Teeth. The rock pedigree of SEMINARS, USS Horsewhip, etc. is as notable as the music itself. It’s a fun listen and a damn good ride. Party Tape indeed.
    https://misterdude.bandcamp.com/album/party-tape

    HONORABLE MENTION #6: The Messthetics – s/t
    Killer instrumental goodness with one of the best rhythm sections of all time, Joe Lally and Brendan Canty of fugazi. Guitarist Anthony Pirog may not have the same level of punk rock notoriety, but he more than makes up for it with a level of acrobatic guitar exploration that rivals some of the greats. A great starting position for a worthy and notable new band. RIYL: Nels Cline Singers

    HONORABLE MENTION #7: Dale Crover – The Fickle Finger of Fate
    He’s not just half of the core of the Mighty Melvins, he’s not just the drum genius who makes things happen with me in Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends, he’s a talented songwriter, guitar player and singer and this is totally and completely worth your time! Cool songs, a little more classic rock than you might expect and worth a listen. Check it out, chocky. Awesome, vibe-y record with hidden hooks. 
    https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/…/the-fickle…

    HONORABLE MENTION #8: (the) Melvins – Pinkus Abortion Technician. 
    Mo’ Melvins! Long may they run, some fun covers and Don’t Forget to Breathe is one of my favorite Melvins songs in years.
    https://melvinsofficial.bandcamp.com/…/pinkus-abortion…

    HONORABLE MENTION #9: Lung – Bottom of the Barrel
    What? Lung again? Yup.
    Frenzied and furious Cello, Vocals and Drums badassery. Absolute earworms that comes at you from an aggressive punk/post-punk place but has an incredible sense of melody, hooks and purpose. This is legit plus stuff and I can’t think of a single band they really sound like. Just get it.
    it’s technically 2017, but on the 2018 list for a technicality. Whatever! it’s still a great record. 

    HONORABLE MENTION #10: The Hand – When All Of The Shit Hits All Of The Fans (The Hand Vol. 3 & 4)
    Mysterious, elusive and irresistible, the HAND has done more than any band since the Residents in putting together a band image that forces you to judge them on the merits of the music. It’s quite the feat! However, I will say that this is zak sally, karl tebeest, and dale flattum. Zak played in Low and Enemymine, and Dale played in Steel Pole Bathtub, Milk Cult and Novex. Anyway, that’s a lot of front loading, this is raucous and hooky noiserock that can simultaneously evoke the Birthday Party, the Velvet Underground, the Melvins 

    The HAND pull off a very special thing, by making all of their releases very limited edition and HYPER unique, hand made and limited edition. It’s easy to tell that multiple members of the band come from the world of comics, because this is a world to be invited into. 
    https://the-hand.bandcamp.com/…/when-all-of-the-shit…

    https://gougeawayfl.bandcamp.com/

  • Ep128: Bob Bert (Sonic Youth, Pussy Galore, Jon Spencer & the HITmakers)

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    Well, hello there! Guess what? You bet it’s another episode of Protonic Reversal! This week, Conan and Josh talked with the legendary Bob Bert, drummer for Lydia Lunch Retrovirus, Jon Spencer and the HITmakers, Pussy Galore, Sonic Youth, and many more! We talked about:

    -Touring more than ever before
    -Playing shows with Jon Spencer again
    -Getting the proper “junk” for the kit
    -Starting the tour without knowing the songs
    -Meeting Pussy Galore
    -The guitar skills of Jon Spencer
    -The night-and-day difference between the HITmakers and Retrovirus
    -The dream gig with Lydia Lunch
    -The encyclopaedic Weasel Walter
    -Getting to know the Melvins
    -Hearing protection
    -Bad Moon Rising
    -Setting up the first Sonic Youth European tour
    -The historical wonder of Youtube
    -Being there for the glory days of Max’s and CBGB
    -Playing a better “Nature Scene” than Jim Sclavunos
    -Bewitched opening for SY on the Goo tour
    -The Action Swingers and the Chrome Cranks…

  • Ep127: Steve Albini (Shellac, Big Black, Electrical Audio Studio)

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    Well hey, hey there Protonic Reversal devotees. Time for another episode, Steve Albini is back with us after a 106 episode break. Conan and Steve talk about:

    -Steve inadvertently ruining the “perfect run” of 9 continuous guests for the 100th episode of Protonic Reversal (not out of malice)
    -Winning the World Series of Poker (and why that might not be as impressive as it sounds)
    -Why recording records is still satisfying.
    -Fluffy coffee shop
    -A story of two competing magic shops
    -Thoughts on the internet equalizing things for music.
    -How this helps those passionate about music as opposed to those passionate about profit.
    -The hive mind as a filter.
    -The internet as a discovery tool for lost art.
    -Nick Drake’s mother.
    -Pegboy play South America
    -Streaming Services and the next logical progression of decentralization.
    -“how do you stop something that doesn’t store anything?”
    -Longevity in studios = flexibility
    -dislike of meritocracy as a term.
    -the value of record stores are the maniacs that work there
    -On hating nostalgia the first time
    -On the lack of appreciation of nuance and allegory in past compositions
    -Specifically: Prayer to God
    -Appropriation of past art and public figures for political end
    -the mind opening power of punk rock
    -You don’t make anything better by assuming your audience is stupid and dumbing down
    -Kindred spirits with the devout.
    -Making records with people who also record at home or in unorthodox ways.
    -Who gets told “no”?
    -Fleetwood Mac (and the like) helped create punk rock
    -Overdubs and Harmonies, and how they can be life lessons.
    -Who would Steve most like to record?
    -Rerecording In Color by Cheap Trick
    -The End of Radio is the end theme song for Protonic Reversal, the ideas behind the song.…

  • Ep126: J.D. Pinkus (Butthole Surfers, Melvins, Honky)


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    It’s Jeff Pinkus of Butthole Surfers, Melvins, and Honky! It’s an episode of Protonic Reversal.
    What more do you need to know?

    ok, ok…
    Greetings protonic friends, time again for a thrilling new episode of Protonic Reversal. Today is Mr. J.D. Pinkus of Butthole Surfers fame, he also plays in the Mighty Melvins, Honky and has recently released a solo banjo record called: Keep on the Grass. Interview starts at: 14:40
    Conan and Jeff talk about the following topics:
    -Keep on the Grass, the story behind it and the involvement of Danny Barnes (bad livers)
    -different sequences for different formats
    -the concept of the full length In general
    -the cassette comeback
    -Pinkus Abortion Technician
    -joining up with Buzz and Dale because of Jared’s impending fatherhood
    -picking BHS songs for a Melvin’s set
    -Paul Leary songs
    -the incredible depth of the Melvin’s catalog.
    -different lyrical approaches.
    -John Prine
    -lots of headphone listening of Chicho music
    -live interpretations of Melvin’s songs and arranging the songs for two basses.
    -playing with Steven McDonald
    -bringing the “creepy old man” vibe to the Melvins.
    -playing bass with fingers (a study in contrasts!)
    -using a Dark Glass amp from finland
    -opening for Sleep with a banjo set
    -432 tuning frequency
    -playing Rebel Girl by Bikini Kill in Melvins w/Teri Gender Bender
    -Daddy Longhead, Skinny Leonard, then Honky
    -the double edged sword of Butthole Surfers not listing credits in the records
    -Playing with Helios Creed on Activated Condition and the journey of making that into a record.
    -half machine lip moves talk
    -trash talk about Lenny Kravitz
    -On joining the Butthole Surfers and making those classic records.
    -drugs and cycles.
    -Buzz doesn’t do drugs and probably shouldn’t.
    -the Butthole Surfers chapter of “Our Band Could Be Your Life” is total bullshit.
    -working with John Paul Jones on Indepdnent Worm saloon and playing banjo on “ballad of naked men” while he plays bass!
    -Being a mixture of Steve Martin and Dean Martin.
    -banjo as a songwriting tool.
    -Doing covers.
    -Hairway to Steven, pictographs haven’t translated well for the iTunes age.
    -taping fire ants to cardboard and sending them to Chicago “a Texas Trip”
    -cockroach snuff movies with Jem Cohen
    -talking with Ian Mackaye about weed expenditures
    -Double Live BHS, a self released bootleg.
    -P.S.Y.
    -is it wrong to be weirded out by the fans of your band?
    -The band name Honky, and how that can (and has been) misconstrued. Different times and all.…

  • Ep125: Sam Coomes (Quasi, Jon Spencer & the HitMakers)

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    Howdy there, friends and well-wishers of the Protonic Reversal, and welcome to another fine program! On this episode, Conan and Josh got to chat with Sam Coomes of Quasi! We talked of so many things:
    Interview begins at 10:53

    -recording with Jon Spencer
    -the Roxichord
    -contrasting music and lyrics
    -playing in a two piece, and solo
    -consistant learning
    -being ill-prepared to start a tour
    -the timing of switching keyboard patches
    -playing with Jandek
    -the three B’s: Ballads, blues, and brutal
    -not being a session man
    -playing favorites and covers in the set
    -the Takeovers
    -keeping Quasi fresh and why
    -learning how not to resent the popular back catalog
    -Hot Shit!/writing political songs during “Shock & Awe”
    -keeping honest in songwriting
    -musical rapport and confidence
    -the role of a producer
    -having confidence in your vessel on tour
    -being where you were trying to get to…

  • Ep124: WORK (Joe Cannon, Kavi Laud, Jeff Brueggeman)

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    Josh is out this week. The band WORK returns for a Labor Day weekend tour and Protonic Reversal appearance, their new record Stricly Cruis’n is out and that means it’s time to get loose and talk about such things as:
    -Kavi’s move to Austin and his annoyance at traffic and delight at Queso
    -ZAGNUT!
    -Shane Hochstetler and Steven Drozd
    -more Zagnut
    -The story behind Strictly Cruis’n and the art by Jason Abele
    -ZZ Top and Jazz records
    -Where does Taco Bell get their food ideas/The Burger King on Brown Deer Road
    -band or fashion label?
    -end album “jams”
    -Current affairs/politics/etc.
    -Pronunciation is key.
    -Joe shaved! To match the pictures of the band closer.
    -Night Dentist
    -One of the most memorable shows Jeff has ever seen… at Landmark Lanes, a bowling alley.

    A lot of songs are played off of the new record and good times are had.

    songs played:

    WORK – Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey
    WORK – As It Turns Out, He Didn’t Actually Have Tuberculosis
    WORK – Everybody Loves Me Like the Hole in My Head
    WORK – (…Somebody Loves Me…)
    WORK – Jesus Diapered Our Sins
    WORK – Mr Tall Octopus
    Shellac – End of Radio (Closing Theme)

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